A conspiracy theory on deaths in NTU?

Maybe I should go to the ISRL laboratory S2-B3a-06 more often to observe the actual environment there. At the moment, I only go to the lab for demonstration and most of the time using my own room as my lab.

just want to share another interesting news.. one of his friend who play the same online game Destiny Online found him still posting discussing the games in the forum around 9 AM at that day…..

Hi gabriel..

nice to know someone is reading my blog.

Well after my translation of the indonesian’s blog to english, one of David’s close friend post a comment which might interest you.

He wrote about possible theories that he and his friends came up with..

Come and read it!

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NTU is not a good working and learning environment, the senior management sits at the high places without touching the ground. The professors and students are being pressure-cooked for the sake of the world university ranking. Past incidents of students committing suicide occurred many times, some were reported in the media and some were not; a professor tried to kill himself by cutting his own wrist but he did not die, another professor killed himself by jumping off from the HDB flat a couple of years ago (both professors were from EEE). The MOE or related authority must form an independent panel to investigate and intervene the mismanagement of NTU, otherwise this university will surely be ranked top in terms of number of sad and unfortunate incidents.

and remove the link and your name from ur blog post!

twinkle07, it is only fair for the blog owner to formulate his own opinions on the subject, whether or not he is affiliated with the instituition. Said affiliation also does not obligate him to defend his alleged instituition’s position or reputation on the matter. As a thinking young adult, he is merely asserting his own right to voice out his two-cents worth.

As for “linking up the 2 cases when they are really individual cases”, there may or may not be a direct link but the very fact that they share a commonality is an avenue worth investigating into. Gabriel’s revelation of the fact that both deceased parties worked in the same laboratory would encourage any investigation to either dismiss the link or provide additional information to the entire issue. Failure to do so would cast a very bad light on local law enforcement, and “inconclusive” is not a word worth typing into a report.

I do find your statement that “it is by choice the two foreign students/staff decide they weren’t brave enough to face reality and end their lives” rather disturbing due to the amount of implications. If the purpose of your comment was to advise Gabriel to refrain from giving these cases further exposure, then it might have been wiser to also contemplate your choice of words. The use of the word “foreign” to differentiate the deceased might not be appropriate given how nationalistic sentiments have been stirring regarding the media coverage about the deaths.

Furthermore, that very statement is an assertion on your part that both parties did indeed commit suicide. Please note that Channel News Asia reports “NTU sees second suspected suicide case in one week” which indicates that murder is not ruled out unless the police officially states it as such. Then not only do you accuse them of suicide, you also take the extra step to question their character and say they lacked the courage to “face reality and [thus] end[ed] their lives”.

Caution not lest ye be cautioned first.

twinkle07,

I find it amusing to read your comments regarding this case, especially on the public’s view of NTU. From my point of view, it seems that you do love to live in your peaceful denial world and to accept whatever ‘truth’ that was reported in the news. This is of course, a mentality that everyone will be keen to adopt for the good of NTU students.

But, we do all know that nothing is clear and there is investigation going on. Since investigation is going on, and if you are 100% sure that NTU professor or NTU itself is nowhere near being at fault, then i am sure that you will walk with your heads up, proudly thinking that these people are just wasting their time investigating a suicide case. But, the opinion this blog provide, i believe, is not an attempt to make NTU appear in bad light or to share conspiracy theory of a death case. It is merely an opinion that may be feasible after all. And I’m sure an intelligent student like you will not want to be concealed of any ‘truth’ that lies beyond those reported by the news right?I’m not commenting here to support whatever is written in this blog. It’s just that i do not think this world should be constrained of the truth that really happened just because it may bring a bad image to NTU.

And let me give you a scenario to consider, twinkle07 (this is just a scenario, please don’t feel offended). Let’s say your brother died of an obscure incident in NTU and it was reported in such a way that your brother’s name is tainted. And at the same time, fishy evidence was found about your brother’s death. Will you fight in the name of justice, to investigate on your brother’s death?Or will you just let it be and make sure NTU is not the guilty one, and you end up happily ever after with your employer thinking that you came from a perfect university?

It is always easy to accept the truth. But which one is the truth?The reported one?Or there is another truth?Is the ‘truth’ reported in the news actually a conspiracy and this blog provides the truth instead?Or is it the other way round? Well, we will never know till the detectives find out all the evidence about this issue. I’m sure that you will have that victorious smile on your face if David is found to have committed suicide. But if the real truth says the other way, and if you were not brave enough to face reality, please do not end your life. There’s more to life than just a good name of your school.

I agree with what ErgoHoc said regarding twinkle07′s comments and the issues.

I do not think that speculating the reasons behind all these cases is wrong since the investigation is still being carried out and there is no solid proof of what really happened. There is no doubt that people will start to think what is the real reason. And I think that the public has already been speculating about possible links between the two cases and whether or not they will view NTU as a “cursed” place is not dependent on this blog post itself. The only way to clear the name of NTU is to wait for the investigation and take whatever the truth there is, and not by covering up the truth.

By saying that there is no need for so much exposure, I think, will only lead to the public in thinking that NTU is a place whereby the authority do not dare to disclose any truth to their students and respond to the people. By hiding the truth itself, who in the future will want to believe what NTU is going to say?? This will only make NTU look worse. Too little transparency will only result in people losing faith in the authority. Therefore, why cover the story? That will only cause more people to speculate and perhaps, misunderstand what had happened. We need to know who is the real victim in this case, and not merely deem the staff and the student as weren’t brave enough to face reality and end their lives. We need to know if what we speculated is true or false.

Also, by writing “It is by choice the two foreign students/staff decide they weren’t brave enough to face reality and end their lives.”
I felt that twinkle07 had somehow categorize foreigners into “weren’t brave enough to face reality”. I do not know whether it is intentional but I am sure twinkle07′s choice of words will cause a lot of discontent and discomfort among the foreigners in NTU.

I seriously think that NTU should inform the staffs and students on what really happened. I think it is necessary to let the public not misunderstand and let the people in NTU be more aware, alert and cautious.

After reading a few others blog entries and some of the forum comments, I felt quite sad for the family because many of the so called “facts” regarding david w’s case and his personality is not really true.

How can the media just assumed david stabbed the prof and committed suicide? Investigation was still going on, but putting up news like that, is like pushing all the possibilities onto a dead person. It is already painful enough to know that he is dead, and now the media are posting so many false facts about david w. I hope that the media can stop adding pain onto his family’s sorrow. And I also hope that there will be a thorough investigation and everyone will be able to know who is/are the victims.

If there is no thorough investigation, or transparency in this, not only NTU, but the reputation of the government will be tarnished.

Gabriel and Boon Jin. I have to think of the same with you both. I was also suspicious David Hartanto Widjaja and Zheng Zhou is a conspiracy victim. My question is, what the basic conspiracy and those who may be involved? Perhaps both of you can help me. Or may be asked to those who might be them. Thank you.

David Hartanto Widjaja, a final year- indonesian-chinese student at Nanyang technological University(NTU,Singapore), was allegedly accused of attempting to murder his Professor, Dr. Chan Kap Luk by the NTU and Singapore Media. This is not based on nonsense but facts. The incident happened at 02 March 2009.

Dr Chan and David was having a discussion-meeting in his office-room at Electrical Engineering Faculty building. Eye-witnesses saw the student slit his wrist and jump off the building while another person has been stabbed (source, paragraph 5).

A few moments later, NTU spokesperson told the media that an indonesian-chinese student is believed to have stab his professor in an attempt to murder him and jump off the building to commit suicide.

This story smells ‘fishy’. How can NTU jump into the conclusion like that when the police still haven’t confirmed what really happened and the media report it as if that David was a killer-lunatic student. How can NTU runs into telling speculation rather than the facts?

In the letter to fellow student after the incidents, NTU president asked the student not to speculate anymore to the media about what is happening instead praying for the professor and soothing David’s parents. But this is ridiculous, no student is telling media anything and it is NTU spokeperson who are telling all the speculation about him committing suicide after attempt to kill his professor. No Eyewitnesses saw he stab the professor and no cctv on the room. How can they reach such a conclusion? They can not make such a defamatory statement towards a person.

Alas, like what people said: ” a dead person can not defend himself so all the faults will be fall into him.”

Rebuffing The Wrong Claims about David!
There has been several rumour that accused David has a mental problem, a loner and killed his professor because his scholarship was cancelled and could not maintain his performance to have his scholarship back. This is absolutely ridiculous and i am getting pissed off while reading the news.

1. Having Mental problem and a Loner?
How can David be a loner while he was a president of an electrical club at NTU? A president needs to communicate and members will asked him for reference. so is he a loner? He also has many close friends and his friend was stuffed in disgust after reading this claim.

2. Scholarship is an issue?
The scholarship termination was decided on February and is based on previous term performance not this year performance so eventhough he can do extremely well this year he will still no get his scholarship back.
Some people said it is money problem? this is impossible as he will finished his study in two more month and the fees is just S$6000++ (inclusive of daily expense; the tuition fee incurred after cancellation is just S$ 3,360++). His parent has said that they are able to afford the all the tuition fees incurred and money was not a problem. The cancellation has been told to them by David 3 weeks before. Eventhough he took loan, he can repay it easily with his salary later. Who doesnot want to hire such a bright young talent with IQ 149.
Some people said it is because he was to ashamed not being able to maintain his scholarship (image problem). Do you think such a guy would care for a scholarship image when he once join IMO (international Mathematics Olympic) and rank only 14 out of 15 participant (if i am not wrong) and still laughing and joking with his friends. Could a simple scholarship ruin his image?

3. Media said that he slit his wrist and jumped from the building
His parent during a meeting with fellow student at NTU said that there is no wounds in his wrist. Part of his body that is actually wounded is his neck slit by a knife. This make sense as his cloth was full with blood when the deceased was found. If the slit his wrist, only parts of his cloth will have the blood stains.
some people said that his back was full with knife wounds ( not confirmed yet and it is impossible to have a confirmation because his body has been cremated.)

4. Final Year Project depression?
Is it true that because he has a problem with his final year project (FYP), he attacked his professor? It doesn’t seem right. The FYP was still in the making progress. The are still plenty of time to do something for his FYP. That day is not a submission day. He also can’t know the end result yet.

What Is his Parents, close friends and relatives view on this issue?
They all agreed one thing. David is not the kind of person that will end his life just because of personal matter and issues. They are also baffled by claims that he is a loner. Everybody who knows him knew that he is an active person.

Parents accessed to the deceased body was limited. When they arrived at Singapore they want to see the deceased body but the police said under Sg law they are not allowed to see the body until the next day.
At night they go to the scene and was suprised to see that no police line was placed and the scene has been “cleaned”. Next morning, David’s parents and brother went to the hospital to see the deceased but again their accessed was limited. They are only allowed to see the head to the neck. Part of body below the neck was wrapped by plastic and the police said, again, under Singapore’s law it is not possible to see the deceased whole body. I do not know anything about Singapore’s Law so i hope somebody who are expert can help.
The deceased family also want to visit the professor but the NTU person said that it is not possible as he is still under operation and in critical condition. But what baffle them more is that when the parents was in Airport at the evening (same day), the evening newspaper has reported that the professor has been discharge from hospital.

Here is the interview video with David’s parent and brother in indonesian language :
http://video.okezone.com/play/2009/03/05/236/7951/keluarga-nilai-kematian-david-penuh-kejanggalan

On another interview, David’s Parents said Singaporean Police said in 1 on 1 fight David sure win because the professor is old but the facts is the professor is just 45 years old and has undergo NS before.

His parents also said that fellow friends has been asked not to say anything to the media! while NTU has been saying everything to accused David as a murderer.

I am trying to clear his name from all sort of defamation done by NTU and Media about him trying to kill his professor and have some mental problems, a loner and other ridiculous claims.

I heard so many weird things happen in this case. I believe that David was not suicidal person, I think he was killed as zhou zheng was.

In NTU FYP, there is no David project, it seems it has been deleted by NTU. NTU seems to hide something there. Zhou Zheng was arrived on NTU on 2 March 2009, the sameday as David died.

Today I hear from local news (detik.com), Straittimes.com publish that david and zhou zeng has similarity like from the same lab and zhou zheng arrived on NTU just when david died (same day). But latter, Straittimes edited that news. Isn;t it weird ?

http://www.detiknews.com/read/2009/03/08/195614/1096417/10/strait-times-buat-2-versi-berbeda-ada-apa

english version: (thanks to google translator)
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.detiknews.com%2Fread%2F2009%2F03%2F08%2F195614%2F1096417%2F10%2Fstrait-times-buat-2-versi-berbeda-ada-apa&sl=id&tl=en

It seems the goverment of singapore and local authority have hidden agendas as well … they didn’t allow the David family to see their child dead body (just allowed to see the face/head only)

To everyone,

Do you know how is The professor life story? Is there any strange behavior?

The media is not immune to sensationalism, assumptions, propaganda, nationalism, mistakes etc. whether in Singapore or elsewhere. I don’t think that journalists actually do any actual investigation for their news unlike the police and official authorities (in fact, they may not even have right to access certain information). Most of the time they are highly dependent on interviews, official statements etc. and therefore can be (but not always) biased towards certain views. The problem here probably lies with the fact that most people, me included, trust the news too much that we just accept everything that was said as fact (or we read to much into the news when nothing was as yet conclusive).

Hypothesis is still a hypothesis unless proven. Currently, I think there is insufficient data for us to draw any conclusion. My opinion is that by simply hypothesising is not helping to bring the investigation any “forwarder”. Blogging is a good way of self-expression and awareness but there is a better way (as not everyone read blogs – I don’t unless I googled it – and I don’t think the authorities have the time to read blogs). If we do feel strongly about how this case is being hush-hushed or about the misinformation of the media, why not approach the relevant authorities or write to media so that our opinions would be heard? Rather than just commenting on an offhand manner, why not do something constructive about it?